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Anglicans & Roman Catholics

Anglicans are sometimes said to be “a little bit Protestant and a little bit Roman Catholic.” That’s probably true to some extent as a description of what people see in a worship service. We Anglicans see ourselves as both fully catholic and as a church of the Reformation at the same time. Because we are the most visibly catholic church in the West that isn’t Roman, people often wonder about what we think of the Roman Catholics.

Recently, I was asked if Roman Catholics are “saved.” Unfortunately, I was asked this question in the middle of a holiday party at my son’s local public school, in front of all the other parents. Needless to say, I invited the other dad to get some coffee and discuss it at another time. The timing of his question wasn’t so great, but the question itself is important to many evangelicals and deserves a response. Even though it might feel offensive to many Roman Catholics, it shows a concern for truth that should be important for all of us.

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There are official dialogues that go on between Anglicans and Roman Catholics, and you can find out about those in many places (including here). I’m not so much writing about the official relationships or ecumenical dialogues here, though. My experience is more in how Anglicans generally talk about and think about the Romans as a part of our everyday life and experience. I’ll mostly address the kinds of questions evangelicals ask us. I’m sure some of my fellow Anglicans will disagree with my assessment, which is mostly positive. I welcome other viewpoints, but I want to share what I’ve personally observed.

The Pope of Rome

While most Anglicans regard the papacy with respect, we do not see the Pope as the final authority in the Church. This is because we believe in a conciliar model of leadership, similar to our Eastern Orthodox brothers and sisters. We hold that the highest level of authority under Christ the Head should resemble the Twelve Apostles acting together in council. Therefore, we disagree that one Bishop should hold final, supreme authority over the others, even as one presides over the group. This foundational belief is why we reject the doctrine of papal infallibility, even when the Pope speaks ex cathedra.

Furthermore, this divergence in authority and belief has practical consequences. Our Roman Catholic brothers and sisters do not recognize Anglican holy orders. In the 1896 papal bull Apostolicae Curae, Pope Leo XIII declared all Anglican ordinations to be “utterly null and void,” a position that remains true to this day. This has made our participation in the sacraments together normally (though not always, under specific provisions) impossible. The division has driven some Anglicans over the years to join the Catholic Church, especially after Pope Benedict XVI created the Personal Ordinariate for those converts, which incorporates some elements of Anglican tradition within a newly developed version of the Roman rite. However, there has been a recent renewal of warmth between Roman Catholic and Anglican leadership, and even talk of eventual full communion between Rome and some Anglican provinces.

A Christian Church?

Anglicans believe that the Roman Catholic Church is a true Christian Church. We may have issues with some of their theology and practice, even serious issues, but we affirm their faith in Jesus Christ. The Roman Catholic Church affirms the creeds, Holy Scripture, and the orthodox faith. They preach that Jesus is the incarnate Son of God who died for us and who rose again. Even when we see what we think are errors, most Anglicans still affirm the true faith in Jesus that is very visible in that communion.

Salvation by Grace

It’s almost universally believed by Protestant and evangelical groups that the Romans believe in grace plus works for salvation. My experience is that many Anglicans do think that the Roman Catholics add works to grace. I don’t necessarily disagree with that assessment; to some degree, so do we. Anglicans, evangelicals, human beings, etc. We all add our works to God’s grace to try to appease or please him. It’s human nature.

Yes, there have been times in the Roman Church’s life in which it seemed to pretty clearly affirm the idea that we can add some of our good works and merit to our spiritual bank account with God. But you can find that same thinking even in, for example, the American Puritans. Yes, even the Puritans wrote about “proving your election.” You proved it by your good works.

The Roman Catholic Church has changed significantly since the Reformation, especially since Vatican II. There is a conscious movement and effort to move away from semi-Pelagianism (human achievement as a part of salvation). I think most Anglicans recognize and appreciate that move, and we would be well to continue in that direction ourselves.

The Blessed Virgin Mary

There are some Anglicans who pray to Mary, who see her as “ever” virgin, and who venerate her in ways that would make Thomas Cranmer roll over in his grave. So those Anglicans don’t have a problem with the way Roman Catholics venerate Mary. Most of us agree with the Roman Catholics who have pointed out some of the idolatry associated with Mary. Yet, the Roman Catholics have retained (at the very center of the Christian life) the beautiful vision of a woman, pregnant with God’s Son, delivering him into the world. Mother of God, Mother of the Church. Forever blessed, honored throughout all generations. Protestants tend to diminish the Blessed Mary or speak of her role in salvation history negatively. Anglicans tend to talk about Mary more, to honor her, and to see her as an icon, a way to see God.

And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant. For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me,
and holy is his name.

Luke 1:46-49

Whereas most Anglicans would encourage Roman Catholics who pray to statues of Mary or see her as a co-redeemer with Christ to desist from an unbiblical practice, we don’t think they should abandon their tendency to honor or her place as the Mother of God.

Authority

Is the Bible our only authority? We see it as the final authority and as the unique authority (the only inspired book). Nothing can take its place. Yet unlike protestants and most evangelicals, we value other authorities, although they aren’t equal to Scripture. Roman Catholics have a similar view. They see Holy Scripture as the top level, but they think that it is mediated through the Church. Anglicans think that the Church is subject to Scripture, and so this creates some interesting arguments about what Scripture teaches. The Roman system might appear more practical, though we fear that it unintentionally subjects Scripture to the Church. Anglicans disapprove.

However, it’s untrue that the Roman Catholic Church doesn’t believe in the Bible, or isn’t biblical. Their Catechism shows that they seek to understand Tradition in light of Scripture. Unlike many evangelical or protestant groups, we tend to understand why the Roman Catholics believe in an authoritative teaching body, even though we don’t agree that that body is authorized by Jesus himself.

Transubstantiation

We reject transubstantiation (as stated in the 39 Articles). However, what we don’t believe is really what Roman Catholics today don’t believe either. Confusing? Yes, it is. Anglicans believe that Jesus is spiritually present in the Communion. We don’t believe in requiring people to believe in a particular way that he does that. Roman Catholics, however, do require people to believe in a formula used to precisely spell out the presence of Christ—that the bread and wine truly and fully become his flesh and blood—and they call it transubstantiation. Both churches believe that the bread and wine are a means of grace and that Jesus is present there.

We aren’t supposed to reserve the sacrament (except for the sick). They do. They put it in a chapel, and people pray there in the presence of the sacrament. The piety of the folks who gather there is without question, and their love for Jesus is obvious if you’ve ever observed people praying in front of the sacrament. However, we believe we did not receive the Eucharist as something separate from the gathered church. We partake in it as a meal; we do not put it on display. Some Anglicans find this to be a serious and harmful error. That said, most Anglicans respect the faith and reverence of the Roman faith, even if we don’t see the mechanics and use of the Eucharist the same way.

Catholic

We Anglicans are catholic. Why? We’re catholic because we believe in the Bible and the Creeds, and because we retain the historic pattern of bishops, priests, and deacons in historic succession. We don’t see the Anglican church as starting during the Reformation. We see it as starting and continuing from the time of the apostles, landing in England when the Pope sent St. Augustine there.

It was reformed in the 16th century, but its origins were earlier. Therefore, we don’t think that a church has to be in communion with the Pope to be catholic. However, many people are only familiar with the word ‘catholic’ in association with ‘Roman Catholic.’ When we say Anglicans are catholic, people think we mean Roman Catholic; we mean orthodox and universal.

I’ve spent a lot of hours trying to help people see that a church can be catholic without being Roman. At least we think it can. The Roman Catholics don’t see it that way. They sincerely believe that Jesus appointed the Bishop of Rome, the Pope, as the one person to whom every Church should be connected. And since they define catholic that way, they don’t see us Anglicans as catholic. The funny thing is, by our definition, we accept that they are a catholic church. We aren’t willing to drop the word catholic just because other reformational churches are afraid of the word. We retain it because it is ancient and important, even at the risk of seeming to agree with the Roman Catholics on the full definition of the word.

“Antichrist and Whore of Babylon”

No, the Roman Catholic Church is not the biblical “Whore of Babylon” and the Pope is not the Antichrist. This is a mistaken belief. Folks, our Roman Catholic friends believe that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of the world. They believe that he is Lord. They believe in the Holy Trinity. I don’t think this needs much more explanation than that.

Big Picture

The big picture is that Anglicans tend to be friendlier to the Roman Catholics, to see them as fellow Christians, and to respect the Roman Catholic Church as the most visible, leading church in the world, especially in the West. We tend to be okay with the fact that we don’t have to agree with them on every point to accept them as fellow Christians. And we reject the idea that a church isn’t fully catholic unless it is recognized as such by the Pope. We also see the Roman Catholics as important partners in standing together as a witness to Christ in the world, and as leaders in formulating thoughtful theology and platforms for engagement on social issues.

Of course, there are Anglicans who would see things very differently from what I’ve described here. I’m sharing my own experience, and what I see around me most of the time. There are Anglicans who think it’s important for us to differentiate from the Roman Catholics at most points, and they won’t like what I’ve written here. However, my experience is that most Anglicans respect the Roman Catholics, even though we don’t always agree with them.


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The reason that we refer to ‘Roman Catholic’s’ is because to us Anglicans, the word ‘Catholic’s’ includes us and the Orthodox.

I enjoyed reading this article. I grew up as a Catholic and am from a family with centuries of Catholic tradition. As a young man, I started reading the scriptures in earnest, especially the Gospels and the writings of the Apostle Paul. In them, I see that our Lord Jesus Christ laid out a clear path of redemption that does not require a doctorate in theology, namely John 3:16 and Ephesians 2:8-9, “For by grace are you saved through grace and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man boast.”

I left the Catholic tradition and joined a baptist church in the early 1980s and had difficulty with the cultural change. I was fortunate to have a very kind, well seasoned and learned senior pastor answer many of my concerns. He told me, “If it is clearly stated in scripture then that is our guidance from our Lord. If it is not, it is most likely church tradition and can be viewed in such a manner.”

What is clearly missing from the teaching of my youth and from my time in the Baptist tradition was the encouragement of the church for the individual believer to constantly search the scripture and seek understanding through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. To hold accountable those who have been given spiritual charge over our faith to the written and inspired Word of God.

I miss the traditional church service that I experienced as a youth. I feel that many of the main denominations have missed the mark in services that are absent deep respect and reverence of God in His three persons.

I recently purchased a copy of the Book of Common Prayer. I was impressed with the article of faith number XX that states: “The church has the power to decree rites and ceremonies, and authority in controversies of faith; and yet it is not lawful for the church to ordain anything that is contrary to God’s written word, neither may it so expound one place of scripture that is objectionable to another…”

How does the Anglican clergy view the responsibility of the individual believer to search for themselves, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit the scriptures, especially in view of recent controversies within the church body?

How do you address salvation by grace compared to salvation plus works? If one is truly saved through grace and has accepted the beautiful gift of life eternal life through confession and belief, then works must follow on their own accord (Romans 10:9-10)?

Thank you for you input and insight.

I think it was a well written article and if someone gets their nose out of joint, unfortunately it is their problem. The Roman church is not perfect and causes continuous shame and abuses. Yes, you need to identify as Roman as there are many different rites within the Catholic Church. I am Ukrainian Catholic through my Dad but I don’t understand the language and growing up we went to my mother’s church which was the Roman. So there. I enjoyed the beauty of both churches but connected with the Roman and how the Anglican resonates with me today. I have since gone to St James Cathedral, Toronto and I feel at home. Religions all have differences and similarities and if you are Roman, Byzantine, Anglican—-as long as you believe and leave it up to you.

As a recent member of an Anglican Church transferring from The Roman Church I have been amazed by the similarities and really almost the sameness of the liturgy. This article is a help and assists me in getting over my ” Roman Catholic guilt” due to generally leaving the Roman Church. However recently I have found myself missing the Roman Church that I was attending. I went to Catholic school through college. I was absolutely floored when I saw the celebratory Mass for Mass for The Assumption of Mary in August because many of my family told me they did not believe in Mary or confession. They do both. I find that periodically I must attend my old Catholic Church just to assuage my guilt. The reason I left was because I did not like the US Bishops starting to deny Catholic politicians the right to receive Holy Communion and of course the ongoing saga of their wrongs to children. This article gave me a great understanding of any differences and I will continue to do as I have for the last two years. Attend the Anglican Mass on Sundays and The Catholic Mass when I cannot travel the distance to the Anglican Church I am a member of. Actually it will take me a very long time to get rid of the guilt. One thing I must say is the Anglican priests are more in tune with their parishioners and they all seem to be really great speakers. I have learned a great deal more about the Bible and Gospel since I have been Anglican.

I, too, was raised in the Roman Catholic church. I attended Catholic school through the 12th grade. I, too, saw things recently that I don’t agree with, and so I am ‘converting’ to Anglicanism. I have not fully been received yet, so I’m still considered Roman Catholic? As such, I can not take Communion in the Anglican church?
I found the article to be most educational and seemingly accurate, from my limited experience in the Anglican church.
Although, it saddens me to leave the church of my childhood.

Hi Christine and Mary

I am still a Roman Catholic practitioner, though it saddens me to hear you both are in the process of transitioning, I am glad that it is to a Catholic orthodox church, as such dont consider it as transitioning or changing your faith, see it as looking for a better suited location.

Yes the world is very cruel to children and others, however I do want to point out, that is an individual person. Not the church itself. The article is very well written, but I saw some misconceptions in the article about catholic.

The Pope is our highest living authority but he is not the highest, on the bible Matthew 16:18 states:
“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.”

Peter was the first Pope of the Catholic church, as such it Jesus works through him to build his church. I believe that the Pope is a human being who is flawed, but by dedication and faith, his faith is unmovable, and will prosper guiding with Jesus’ church his fellow community. We dont wait to be accepted into the church if we want to practice we are in. Jesus says this many times on the bible. As for it must be associated with the Pope, not so much, but rather the church the faith that the Pope directs, meaning believes, principals, etc. Because the Pope is a human being and it is flawed, and we have had historically bad influence Popes, even now with the newest Pope, I dont agree with what he is doing/saying about the war, however that is the person not the roman catholic faith itself.

Romans 15:7: “Therefore welcome one another as Christ has welcomed you, for the glory of God”

Matthew 25:35: “For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me”.

Matthew 9:13: “Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners”.

John 6:37: “…whoever comes to me I will never cast out”.

Galatians 3:28: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus”.

We are all sinners, but we are accepted and welcome nonetheless.

As the view on Mary I have never heard of Mary being a co-redeemer, never have even heard of that word. The statement that was made of Mary from the Bible is dead on. And we dont go past that, our prayer to Mary and saints is like asking fellow parishioners to pray for you and your needs it is a community, we dont pray to them, but rather ask them to pray for us /with us when we pray to God.

And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has looked on the humble estate of his servant. For behold, from now on all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me,
and holy is his name.

Luke 1:46-49

To me it sounds more like, that someone that went to one church location, and didnt like the beliefs that they were teaching. Instead of going to a different location—because priest, atmosphere and community—are very important they decided that all Roman Catholics were the same, and so they decided to grow a branch 🙂 that suited them. Which is nothing wrong with that 🙂 We have the right to our own faith. And the article states beautifully at the end, which is my motto, if you believe in the Bible and the Creeds, that is what makes you Catholic, in fact there are so many Catholic orthodoxes some that are and some that are not in communion with Rome. There is more Catholic churches than just Roman. So when people say they are Catholic I dont go to Roman, in fact I dont even know the catholic Orthodox, I technically grew up in. We just use Catholic. Orthodox and universal 🙂

I guess my point is dont let the judgment/actions of the human beings hinder your decisions. I know you both posted several years ago. But I hope if there is still some guilt about the decision, rest assured there is nothing to feel guilty about. It is much better than not going to church at all, no communion or confessions aka me. However, my faith is as strong as ever. 🙂

Have a very good day, and hope your lives stay blessed and prosperous.
Liz

I loved this article. I am neither Anglican or Roman Catholic, but am drawn to both. I have struggled with lady vicars (& I am a female)& some of the stuff that is being accepted by the Anglican Church (not going “there” incase I offend!). I don’t think it’s helpful to point to past persecution of Protestants by Roman Catholics or vice versa (as lots of that too) & what about the poor old (Ana)baptists, persecuted by both?! Christians killing Christians is tragic – but as the old saying goes “don’t judge Christ by (some) Christians”. I wish we could all get along & be truly “catholic “, but I don’t think that will be ever possible.
The saddest thing to me has been hearing Anglicans & especially Roman Catholics chewed up & spat out in the pulpit by Evangelicals/Calvinists – no preacher should be slagging off other denominations/Christians or judging them so harshly, especially in the pulpit; the pulpit is not a “soapbox”!
Of course, every denomination HAS an opinion that they are doing it right, or are the only ones who have the Gospel etc etc…probably even many Anglicans & RCs do. But on the whole the ecumenical spirit seems to be more alive (& loving) between the latter two. And I like that. I type this on the day after Pope Francis passing. Whatever is thought of the office of Pope – he was a true man of God – but I fear many of the Evangelical/Calvinist folk I know will have already consigned this dear man’s soul to hell. I absolutely loathe that they see the RC Church as the Whore of Babylon! That’s wicked! RCs do have some odd dogma (& tacky relics) but I do not see them as an apostate Church like most Evangelicals/Calvinists – infact when I read their writings & listen to their music I find alot of beauty & spirituality (certainly more than…ahem… Calvin’s Institutes! Joke)
God bless all of you out there & let’s just love one another & work together to show Christ & His love & salvation to a suffering & needy world – the light shines in the darkness & will not be overcome! It will never be extinguished because He is that light.

Thank you for not making either “side” look stupid